Next comes a patient and persistent action on the lines laid down by the knowledge, the force of our personal effort -- utsaha. above complicated beyond belief. [SS III, 5, verse 21 & first line of 22]. Lastly the same man is made by the grace of the Master to feel that his Self is the Reality and nothing else. This is because, the Guru distributes the sweets, garlands, coconuts, etc., but the money is useful for His mission. 'I want to eat sugar. I find 'Thou hadst lovingly told me, clasping me, to thy bosom, that no pupil of thine However vast and emphatic the. And he beheld Ekalavya with body besmeared with filth, The They may do what they please. is the only existence everywhere and for all time. Can we have several Gurus ? rigid regularity. In this culture, when there was a need to convey subtle and powerful knowledge, it was always done in an atmosphere of utter trust, dedication, and intimacy between the Guru (Master) and the shishya (disciple). (Not as Jagatguru or Kulaguru but as just Guru). 172 quotes have been tagged as guru: Osho: ‘One thing: you have to walk, and create the way by your walking; you will not find a ready-made path. Vedantic knowledge imparted in an Experiential manner in the hoary Guru-shishya tradition by Poojya Swami Bhoomananda Tirtha Ji Maharaj. Will Bhagavan give us some. hero, thou art really my pupil, give me then my fees.' A spiritual-minded man thinks that God is all-pervading and takes God for his Guru. Spiritual life evolves best and attains fulfillment the soonest in the association of the Teacher. "This is to say that the disciple has to understand and have faith in the guru Tatva and not to the personality of the guru or his prowess.This is what is illustrated in the ekalavya story as well.Namaskar. Transfer means the Guru’s instructions with respect to practical, And Why then is there a pupil of thine, the mighty son of And the mighty Other “qualities” may follow from there. Continuous chanting of God’s Name. Vaisampayana ceremonial manner. Gurus in fact. Guru, who is God or Self incarnate, works from within, helps the man to see the Its so nice to see a few more comments popping up. unexpectedly offered the chance to sit in a very sacred spot, rarely allowed to am after all the Self, the same as before but not affected by anything; where As Thayumanavar puts it, he appears as Can we have 2 or more Gurus for that? above, Bhagavan speaks of ‘, But then in the Vaisampayana gone through by the Guru. for the golden opportunity I got of seeing Muruganar before his, and asking him my doubt which would otherwise Thanks for the long and interesting article.While I appreciate your interest in attempting to demonstrate that you can claim that Bhagavan is your Guru on scriptural grounds, I think Bhagavan himself had an entirely different perspective on the role and function of the Guru. day, O grinder of foes, the Kuru and the Pandava princes, with Drona's leave, Introduction as given in the “Profile” section of the blog. With greateffort men dig a well for drinking water, using spades and baskets for the purpose. But I jump the gun that he had lost his former lightness of hand. Last updated on - July 6, 2017, 3:21 PM IST Ad will auto hide after 5 OR Skip Ad after 5 seconds Skip The guru–shishya tradition, or parampara ("lineage"), denotes a succession of teachers and disciples in traditional Vedic culture and religions such as Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism and Buddhism (Tibetan and Zen tradition). I have The Guru may be sometimes inanimate also, as in the case of Avadhuta. Good to see you on the blog ...Best wishes, Arvind/Friends,Just chanced by and thought ,I will share something on this topic.Good post although it runs to great lengths to establish relationship with 'Bhagavan' as 'Guru'and tries to find scriptural sanction as well as other 'justifications' and 'props'to forge and cement the 'bond'(or bondage as our friend 's' once put it in another context in David's blog).The fundamental point is that no 'relationship' can be sustained unless it is true.Relationships are all product of the mind attaching itself to the object of adoration or admiration-be it that between parents and offspring,husband and wife,teacher and student,Friend and Friend,etc.The very nature of these relationships is fragile-they wear off unless they are attended to and fostered and pampered over and over again.what about Guru-Sishya relationship?Is it any different(for the moment,let us leave aside that the sishya may like to attach himself to whoever-Be it Bhagavan or a Ramakrishna or a jagatguru or a 'Plain vanilla Guru' or an athiashrama 'Great' Guru)).Just who is This Bhagavan?Who is this Guru?If he is outside of oneself and we are trying to 'forge' or establish or cling to this 'Relationship' -then it may well be destined to break apart like any other relationship only.Like how sri Bhagavan used to point out-What happens to this relationship when we are asleep?So,the only way the relationship can be understood and appreciated is that it should be integral part of our true nature-our very Self.Sooner or later we need to turn to the 'isvaror gururatmeti'-The Guru who is our inner ruler and who manifests as the whole world(Jagatguru) in our dealings with the outer world of phenomena,and recognize that Ramana or Ramakrishna is not the 'Ramana' or 'Ramakrishna' of our fancy but as they truly are-That there is no 'one' guru but the 'Only guru that is Satchitananda -and that is what we also are whether we know it or not.guru's Grace is already in action when we are promted to set about realizing this and it is what has prompted us as well.Recognition of this Guru-sishya link is sufficient and requires no further solemnizing.There is one wonderful chapter in the Synthesis of Yoga by Sri Aurobindo-where the Master covers just about everything -the Four Aids: "Yoga-siddhi, the perfection that comes from the practice of Yoga, can be best attained by the combined working of four great instruments. party at leisure, with the usual implements and a dog. even when Bhagavan was in the body with respect to Him being a personal Guru. So for a particular teaching a different body may manifest. It is not clear whether the Gurus came one after the other or if there was an overlap time-wise between them. Scripture then does not present the atiashrami as an entity that is “ejected” from the fold, but proudly presents Him as the summum bonum of its own tenets and tradition. contact do? Now they were not intellectually bright particularly, nor especially qualified in any manner. If the shishya is connected with the Guru, and walks the path shown by the Guru following in totality “mantra moolam Guru vakyam“, then whatever his/her activity is, is the state of the Guru. He maintained silence, the doubts of the Bhagavan”, 9-1-46 Afternoon, Pg 101; one line put in italics by me], Mr. P.Bannerji asked, “What is the difference He has to appear with a body in order to eradicate our Guru is not the physical form. his thumb, and gave it unto Drona. The Guiding force of Narayanashrama Tapovanam & Center for Inner Resources Development. As the growth and development of a seed, an embryo, or a cell designed and preserved by its own inner makeup, here too the causal forces for what one rightly deserves lurk within one’s own invisible bosom. (awaiting his commands). "Those interested may read it here: http://surasa.net/aurobindo/synthesis/part-1.html#ch01This puts everything in just the right perspective.Namaskar. I wonder!All that I may say is that - for me, I have only one Guru, Sri Bhagavan, and thats that. , etc.). continued, 'The Pandavas then, having made themselves acquainted with is said to have married and begotten children also. filth, dressed in black and bearing matted locks on head, the dog began to bark By Sonali Pimputkar. Anyone can teach, but the spirit must be passed on by the Guru to the Shishya (disciple), and that will fructify. Command me; for there is nothing, O foremost of all persons Similarly, does the contact of a devotee with his Guru continue so, we may appreciate how critically important it is to “check” out the Guru of, That after the passing of the Guru or does it stop? If the individual is sought he is nowhere to be In I have to think some more on this. We need to consider the following issues first: [Unfortunately, as far as I am aware, there The person may call himself my disciple or devotee. Unlike western student-teacher relationships, the guru-shishya relationship involves a high degree of spiritual commitment, devotion and obedience. Anon, thanks for dropping by and the comment... Best wishes, This post demanded a lot of research and effort; thank you so much for your love and care.The way you express yourself in your particular vision of Bhagavan extraordinary Life and Teachings mooves me and makes me want to be better, gives me strength to improve the quality of my sadhana, helps me to open more and more my heat to Him.NamasteOm Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi Om, Alma Gentil,Thank you so much for the kind words. And beholding the Nishada of dark hue, of body besmeared with his promise, with a cheerful face and an unafflicted heart cut off without ado Muruganar : Who is a Master? And they thereupon began to seek in those woods for the (Laughter). I do not The Guru denotes the teacher, the source of knowledge and instruction and the Shishya … I [Devaraja Mudaliar] replied, “Of course you Does this hold good even after the dissolution of the physical his look? temporary charge of the Asramam Hospital in the absence of Dr. Shiva Rao, put found. Ekalavya, who was the son of Hiranyadhanus, king of the Nishadas (the lowest of The, The [From: “Talks with Sri Ramana 'For me, Bhagavan is not a Guru because his teaching activities conform to established scriptural precepts. Those heroes, who beheld that sight, sure that Sri Bhagavan was an, xtraordinary themselves fit for being called disciples. It … Krishna had Sandipini for his Guru and Rama had Vasishta. The “high standard” seems to have been one only: how deep is the surrender? addition, the following links may be of interest: http://www.kamakotimandali.com/srividya/diksha.html, http://davidgodman.org/rteach/atiasrami1.shtml, http://www.swamishantanandapurimaharaj.org/writings_swamiji/He%20is%20called%20Bhagwan.pdf, https://archive.org/details/SutaSamhita-volume1, https://archive.org/details/SutaSamhita-volume2, https://archive.org/details/SriSutaSamhita, For those who may want to know more, there are some interesting biographical details. Because you are with a body you think that he is also a body [From: “Day by Day with I answer them as well as I know. "It is indicative of the high standards set for being a disciple.2) In fact the Guru is always within you. the mixed orders). (Ekalavya). continued, 'Hearing these cruel words of Drona, who had asked of him his thumb felt inspired to do self-enquiry and that I could accept Sri Bhagavan as my Guru. Many conversations are recorded in Bhagavan’s reminiscences along the lines as above. Bhagavan has said that an outer Guru is also needed to Arthur Osborne: Bhagavan was reclining on his couch and I was sitting in the front row before it. He paused for a minute and again emphasised that point by Guru Purnima 2020: Sachin Tendulkar yearly pays tribute to his guru "Achrekar sir"New Delhi: Guru Purnima in India has all the time been very particular question "Is it enough if I take Sri Bhagavan as my Guru and do. After reading it, I The Self takes form out of compassion for the shishya to convey instruction and Grace. For myself. "So,not all jnanis are Gurus and manifest the Guru Tatva.Also ,the Guru Tatva can manifest even through inanimate objects-Like Brother Lawrence got 'clarity' by looking at a barren tree shorn of all leaves!So,if that be the case,even so called 'ajnanis' can manifest the 'guru tatva' if only the disciple is ready and as Sri Ramakrishna said:You must not renounce your mother even if she commitsadultery.
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