I don't know what goes through this person's mind, but before he strikes again and puts some other family through what we're going through, we need to get him off the streets," he added. Reddit's open forum for discussion of anything and everything about true crime, court cases, and the legal system. "People said that there was a guy behind the tree in the photo of Abby in the woods. In . Idk if he's an actual suspect, but the police certainly jumped on the opportunity to detain him for his probation violations and have kept him in custody. FOX 10's Nicole Garcia reports. His Lawyers Say He Has "Nothing To Hide." An unsealed affidavit revealed new details about the 2017 killings of Libby German and Abby Williams including that the suspect told police five years ago he'd been near the crime scene. Blends in well with the local populations of small, rural towns. I know that a lot of people speculate that this was not a crime of opportunity, but I think it was. The following is based on various news reports at the time, mostly from The Arizona Republic: Few details are known about the Redmonds and their family, aside from the crime itself. I wonder if the FBI has been contacted for data regarding truck drivers moving between Iowa and Indiana on the days in question? There are also rumours they have DNA as well. Also, I never suspected RL in these crimes. "I'd like to be able to have a little bit of happiness come Christmastime this year, knowing that nobody else is every going to have to go through what we went through and that this person isn't still out there.". Shortly after the Delphi murders, Indiana State Police raided a nearby meat-packing plant due to a bomb threat, which may or may not have been the actual reason for the raid. Richard Allen, 50, "Somebody knows this person," said Patty. LH told news.com.au the it took her an hour to cross Monon High Bridge and once she had done so, she wasn't going to cross back the same way, crawling on her knees. Round 3: New winter storm pummels Arizona with snow and rain, Tree falls over during storm west of Phoenix, Rescue of Australian hiker stranded in freezing Arizona, New winter storm bringing rain to the Phoenix area. Their bodies were found some 5 months later in neighboring Bremer County in a desolate wooded area known as the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. They may have told him all kinds of lies about finding this or that, trying to get him to admit to something.Police do what they have to in order to get a confession. RIP sir. Your service and dedication to the community will not be forgotten.". McCall and Bracy have since died in prison. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The accusations of luring a child to a private location to commit a brutal crimebegged the question of whether Carroll County officials were investigating Chadwell as possibly being tied to the Feb. 13, 2017,killings of teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams. "Please, please, come forward and let us know what you know," Carter said. [5] Police claimed the family abused Ame because they did not believe she was a blood relative. Six months later, though, a painful anniversary has arrived with still no answers. He succumbed to the injuries sustained on Saturday at the hands of a violent predator. Sadly, of course, I know that is not always enough. The rumor about the girls wearing scarves at their funeral seems to check out. On May 10, prosecutors moved to amend its initial Count 6 from battery with serious bodily injury, a Level 5 felony, to battery on a person younger than 14 resulting in serious bodily injury a Level 3 felony. Ahead of the party, Marilyn Redmond was in the kitchen cooking aham, roast beef and scalloped potatoes. My 6 year old loves that channel. Both cases involved young females between the ages of 8-14. Sheriff Penzone said during a news conference on Oct. 11 that the incident began during the early-morning hours of Oct. 9 when deputies responded to reports of a suspicious person. I just cannot imagine the pain they go through every minute of every day. Some of these news outlets broadcast on TV stations available in Tippecanoe County. That's extraordinary confidence for someone committing a crime of this sort for the first time. I think this is something he had been wanting to do for a long time and probably planned and put things in place to do something like this at some point in time, but I don't think the girls were stalked or chosen ahead of time. Abby survived the initial attack and crawled out of the body of water but perished due to hypothermia and blood loss. Experiences extreme feelings of entitlement and is prone to rage and outbursts. The barn on the Mears property is a popular guess. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Still, these families have not given up hope. Ame was said to be "chronically hungry". The bodies were all found in areas a hunter might frequent. May have changed his appearance after the crime (cut or dyed his hair, trimmed facial hair, disposed of clothing, etc). This is one opinion I have not waivered from. Deputies were unable to locate the suspect, identified as Clinton Robert Hurley. Cookie Notice Winter Weather: Can Arizona home roofs withstand heavy snowfall? David Martin Deal was not charged in the death of his daughter, but was sentenced on June 6, 2013, after pleading guilty to attempted child abuse. "My neck was stiff and I could hardly lift it very easily.". Their bodies were found in the woods east of Delphi the next day on Valentine's Day. If you have information on the Evansdale murder, contact law enforcement at319-232-6682. It's the only plausible explanation for the search party not finding them earlier. "It's amazing we have a video, we have a still photograph, we have sound and we don't know who this person is," he said. The homeowner was someone he knew and they reportedly had a history of conflict. So if you go through the aforementioned points, it makes sense to me that this is someone who had access to the area, had been planning to do something of this nature for some time and then finally got their opportunity. Killer is somewhat familiar with the local area. We might find out more Monday as I believe that is the landowners court date. Now, that suspect may face the death penalty, county officials said months later. Phoenix police initially believed the motive for the killings was robbery some jewelry and about $1,200 in cash were taken from the home. He said someone knows who the killer is but was keeping quiet because of "extreme fear". Marilyn Redmond was taken to Good Samaritan Hospital in Phoenix, where she stayed for about 13days under police guard, according to The Republic. May be familiar with the Delphi, Indiana area as well as the Meyers Lake/Bremer County areas of Iowa. [5] Before the family moved to Phoenix, Arizona, they were living in Ogden, Utah, where school officials claimed that they had reported many incidences of abuse and neglect about the family's children to the authorities. The home andneighborhood were described by the newspaper as "fashionable" in separate reports. The suspect who reportedly attacked and killed a Maricopa County Sheriff's deputy in October 2021 may face the death penalty, the county attorney's office said months later. "They also said there is a guy coming into the bridge which you can see in the picture at the end. I think the killer has absolutely nothing to do with RL and with Delphi. Atsome point, he lived in Ohio, before moving to Phoenix in the 1950s, according to details provided in 1981byhis obituary andby his friend and business partner, Ron Lukezic. Their bodies were found nearby a day later. (WTHR) - State police say more audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. Newly released interview transcripts of police and one man reveal more details about the investigation into the death of two Indiana teenage girls. "With his ultimate sacrifice, Deputy Ruiz made an even more substantial sacrifice. Mesa PD Tweeted, "Our thoughts and prayers are with the @mcsoaz and the family and friends of Deputy Juan M. Ruiz. Deputy Ruiz was laid to rest at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery in Avondale, following a funeral procession, Along the route, residents who did not otherwise know Deputy Ruiz lined up to pay their respects. Clinton Hurley, the suspect accused of killing Maricopa County deputy Juan Ruiz, has been released from the hospital and is now in Pinal County Jail. He was hospitalized in stable condition, according to Sheriff Penzone. Police say the girls mostly talk about "stuff girls talk about" in the recording, but they also mention the man. What are your thoughts on weather or not they have DNA evidence from the crime scene or not? Maybe this guy knew those girls were going to be there, maybe he overheard them speaking or maybe he knew their mother and their mother told him that they were going to be there Anything is possible these days. Police suspected foul play since Ame was found very dirty with bruises on her left leg, since it was in forced contact with the trunk. That part was a matter of being at the wrong place at the wrong time, I think. Parks at the cps bldg in the early morning and walks around. It is possible that RL does know the killer. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Doesnt mean that was him or someone on his property that did it, Im just stating what seems to be the most obvious just from my perspective. All three men were ultimatelyconvicted on two counts of first-degree murder and one count of attempted first-degree murder and sentenced to death. When the family lived in Wisconsin, the local child protective services were called because of the "disgusting conditions" of their residence. IMPD releases edited bodycam of man shot, critically injured by officers after chase, First truckloads of contaminated waste dumped in Putnam County landfill, Live Doppler 13 Weather Blog: Heavy rain, storms return Friday, Wednesday evening Live Doppler 13 forecast March 1, 2023. [4], David Deal, Ame's possible father, was reported living in the back of the family rental home in a tent with his two other children. The Ajo Fire Department said, "Our thoughts and prayers go out to Deputy Ruizs family, friends and colleagues. This didn't have to have happen. I see their little faces and I just get mad. "Our heart is with (MCSO) and the family of Deputy Ruiz during these difficult moments," Gilbert PD said. "Then I realised I had to cross the creek. May have an alibi for the time of the murders but this alibi may be superficial or crack under scrutiny. There would have been lynch mobs for this kind of crime 100 years ago. LH revealed the bridge is higher and more treacherous than it looks, and some of the cross posts called "ties" - are missing or rotten. They all claimed that they found Ame dead the next day, in the trunk. Before Ame was squeezed into the trunk, she was forced to do jumping jacks and backbends and to run around in 103-degree heat for over an hour. In that same downtown, flyers with another picture hangs on them, the police sketch of the man investigators say is the killer. Both Carter, the local sheriff, other law enforcement and Delphi citizens themselves are convinced because of the location of the girls' abduction and murder, the killer was a local or former resident with intimate knowledge of the site. According to Shirley, she was seeing another man during the time she conceived, therefore it is not known for sure if David Deal is the father of Ame. In the second sketch, the man is much younger and with a full head of hair rather than a cap on his head. The girls were disposed of in a body of water. Both families say that was a tough day for them, knowing Abby and Libby should have been there and weren't. On Feb. 15, 2017, police released cellphone images from German's phone showing a suspect in the case coming across the bridge towards the girls. The girls clothing was found in a body of water, likely to dispose of evidence. Their hands were bound with adhesive tape and their mouthsstuffed with socks from a nearby dresser. Also, I do agree that the girls were taken somewhere and then dumped afterwards. A friend of mine from Flora, IN says that it's true. That knock on the door might have saved the girl's life. Perhaps these exact work boots were not worn during the murders but they may closely resemble the footwear the killer was wearing. I don't believe he did it, but am curious about his son or people he may know. The Journal & Courier asked that question to Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby on April 27 and published a story to answer readers' questions. By 5pm, the girls' families were out searching for them and by 6pm most the town, which has a population of about 3000, had joined police, but the girls were not found. Nothing less is acceptable.". What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. Or maybe he checks out RLs property and watches him leave. The Republic in 1981 noted the Redmonds'single-storyhome on a cul-de-sacnear Seventh and Northern avenues was valued at $200,000,during a time when themedian home value in Arizona was about$54,800. You just dont walk around with a murder kit on a trail hoping to have some victims walk your way, do you? "If they were standing there now, there would have been foliage covering her view of the killer. He said WilliamRedmond liked to boat, fish, drink beer and was "a big fan of ASU. She at one pointduringMcCall's trialleft the witness stand to point a finger at him from the center of the courtroom. Picks a spot to change into his BG attire with his kill kit. 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I don't know that the property owner is the murderer, but like many have said, I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone he knows in some way or another. If you look on a elevation map, its an extremely flat part in a hilly area. "It was an awful feeling of being trapped with no way out of there. Judith Deal and Cynthia Stoltzmann were charged with numerous counts of child abuse. BUT if I am misunderstanding how the search went down and how the girls were found, then that can change. Example video title will go here for this video. Also living there were Cynthia Stoltzmann's daughter, Sammantha, and her son-in-law, John Allen, both 23, and twelve or more children. Check this out: https://youtu.be/DZzBCyLSI0E. Thanks for posting! "There is moss growing on some spots where the ties are spongy, likely contributing to the decay. The papers showed that Kline had communicated with German using the account. Delphi murders/autopsy - funeral pics WTF Next! Chadwellgave officers permission to search his house, and they found the girl naked and badly beaten, according to prosecutors. He is far bigger than BG. The case remains unsolved more than five years . She was either still (barely) alive when searchers found her or had perished just prior to being found (reports alternate between either her passing away in the ambulance or her body still being warm, but deceased, when searchers found her). Authorities have not released a cause of death. Additionally, detectives pressed Kline on a conversation he had with one of German's friends via the account after her death. You're going to wear that? If married or partnered, it is a distant and likely abusive relationship. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Support local journalism. In the early weeks of the investigation, police released a picture of the man believed to be the killer, taken on Libby's cell phone the day the girls disappeared and they audio believed to be the killer's voice saying, "Down the hill.". It has not been revealed if these odd signatures were part of the murder method or done post mortem. And here is why I think its a local or someone who has local access to a property in the area: The navigation to the murder spot. Indiana local LH, who didn't want to be identified, told news.com.au that she finds the spot the girls met and filmed their murderer so creepy, she takes a gun whenever she visits. Or someone he allows on his property in some form or fashion. Then again, did they not have an open casket funeral?? That same friend, Floyd Kelly, said he and his wife, Verna, planned to attend a New Year's Eve party at the Redmond home the night of the murders. In Chadwell'sMay 21 filing for a change of venue, his attorneys wrote, "Chadwell is unable to receive a fair trial in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, as it has been reported that he is being investigated for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The bodies may have been posed in an odd or provocative manner, often indicative of serial killer behavior. The couple and their mother were eventually ordered to a bedroom and forced to lay face down on abed next to each other. Floyd and Verna Kelly, the first to arrive for the party,found the slain family and called for help. He is a white male with his hands in his pockets while walking. Friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, left school early and were dropped off around 1:45pm by a relative to go hiking on trails near the Moon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. "He was just a nice guy.". Michael Rudd died on Oct. 11 during a pursuit on Interstate 10, and that same day, the family of Maricopa County Sheriff's Deputy Juan Ruiz took him off life support after he was assaulted by a suspect last weekend. Finally sees exactly what he wants and ..you know the rest. She was acquitted in 1985 after a third trial. Eventually Shirley and the children joined David again and they lived in Midland, Texas, together with David's mother, Judith Deal, and his sister, Cynthia Stoltzmann. It is absolutely horrible what happened to these girls. Ame Lynn Deal was born in Monongahela, Pennsylvania, on July 24, 2000, to Shirley Deal, who was married to David Deal at the time she conceived. and our Libby and Abby were lured off of the Delphi trails east of the city and forced to a secluded place along the banks of the Deer Creek, where they were killed. He did not elaborate about other possible suspects. However, the cops have found nothing. 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