Now it came to pass, when Adonizedec king of Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. They probably went from Gibeon by some circuitous route so they did not come directly from the west where they actually lived. WebOne of the mothers of the men hanged by the Gibeonites protected the bodies of Saul's sons from birds and wild beasts day and night. What have you been thinking about?". Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints! For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.". The Gibeonites achieved their short term goal - survival; but they paid a terribly long term price for it - virtual slavery! He just let them walk all over him. So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. He says that He visits the iniquity upon them. So he did to them, and delivered them out of the hand of the children of Israel, so that they did not kill them. And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. He was tired of life, tired of war, tired of all the politics, tired of all the rebellion, tired of Joab. Deuteronomy 21:22-23 If a man has committed a sin deserving of death, and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, his body shall not remain overnight on the tree, but you shall surely bury him that day, so that you do not defile the land which the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance; for he who is hanged is accursed of God. And they went to Joshua, to the camp at Gilgal, and said to him and to the men of Israel, "We have come from a far country; now therefore, make a covenant with us. And it very seriously affected his judgment in this matter. This incident of the famine took place rather late in David's life. It cut us off from God. Only when the Gibeonites were under siege from a common enemy and were calling in the marker on their mutual aid treaty did the Israelites turn to God for counsel and advice. ", The Gibeonites, we are told, were not necessarily a warlike people. But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. . David did not make any counter demands. Scripture has said this explicitly. So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal [Merabsee margin of most Bibles] the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. Another possibility is that when Saul slew many of the priests at Nob he also executed many Gibeonites (1 Samuel 22:19). Can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this story? 2 Samuel 21:2 At this, David summoned the Gibeonites and spoke to them. Has the book of Amos been fulfilled or is it a reference to end times? Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. What might he have done? God tells us that, spiritually, we have to go and wipe them out. How does this all connect with Ezekiel chapter 18? The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" There is not much wiggle room in all this. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Now Rizpah the daughter of Aiah took sackcloth and spread it for herself on the rock, from the beginning of harvest until the late rains poured on them from heaven. 0 responses By this time, Moses had died and was buried. It is very evident from verse 4 that somebody offered money, either from the palace or from the family of Saul. Joshua 9:14 is the key to Israel's problem. According to a May 2007 George Barna Poll, 63% of Americans, mostly professing Christians, believe that Jesus sinned during His physical life! This has become known as the "eye for an eye principle." There is a great deal more than what meets the eye. Even their empty wine skins were completely dried up and cracked. Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? The Bible implicitly hints at something which caused a feud which was settled only by the blood of Sauls descendants. We want them to reflect what a real person would do in extreme or extraordinary circumstances. Why was Satan so effective in influencing the actions of Eve? We are talking about the possibility of only two of the seven even remotely having any guilt in this matter whatsoever. There should have been payment for it. He gives them exactly what they want, and look at what happens. WebKing Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. Joshua 9:22-24 Then Joshua called for them, and he spoke to them, saying, "Why have you deceived us, saying, 'We are very far from you,' when you dwell near us? Later, during a wasting famine, David, attempting a political rather than a righteous solution, yielded to the Gibeonites' request that descendants of Saul be hanged to avenge the slaughter. Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. II Samuel 21:3-6 Therefore David said to the Gibeonites, "What shall I do for you? It says a bit later that somebody told him what that woman was doing out there protecting the bodies of the slain men of Saul's house for the past six months and it was as though he said, "Oh really? And David sought the face of the Lord. Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. Much later, King Saul ignored this covenant of peace and killed some Gibeonites. For all his misguided efforts and pains, Saul reaped the fruits of his delusion. The people of the land stand for our spiritual enemiesour human nature, this world, and Satan the Devil. Then they were able to pick up the pieces of their lives and move forward by the strength that God gave them to overcome and to grow, and to put on the mindthe characterof Christ. And, that was that. Because David had been good friends with Jonathan, he at first allowed all of Sauls family to continue to live peaceably in the land. Where are they from? David was annonted by Sammuel Apr 10, 1035. THE BATTLES OF THE LORD The Gibeonites merely asked for a mutual help pact that would guarantee not only mercy and aid from Israel, but protection from their common enemies. They wanted blood by putting to death seven male descendants to die for the crimes of that house against the Gibeonites. God only let the rain cycle start again. Leviticus 26:3-4 If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them, then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. In the economy of God's providence, however, such tiny events often matter much. Jerusalem is almost directly west a few miles, but it is quite high from the Jordan to the Jerusalem. This is very, very important for this vignette in King David's life. What would be some verses from the Bible to save a marriage? At the time the Israelites under Joshua invaded the Promised Land of Canaan, most of the inhabitants rose up in arms against them. He was far from God during this time. The Bible does not provide us the details of this killing. It does not seem so. That would be such a carnal thing to dojust let the Gibeonites kill seven of Saul's kids who could claim the Israelite throne and get them out of the way. The Gibeonites joined in the fight against the Philistines B. Except for verse 21, there is very little mention of God in the whole episode. No silver or gold from that house. Go coach! Joshua 9:25-27 "And now, here we are, in your hands; do with us as it seems good and right to do to us." In addition, after this was the rebellion of Sheba, in which there were all kinds of disruptions until Sheba was killed. During Davids reign, the people of Gibeon demanded that all of Sauls children be put to death so as to atone for a severe famine. King Saul (and his house?) They may not have been involved at all, depending on how early in Saul's reign this event took place. Why were two of Saul's sons and five of Saul's grandsons killed for a crime they didn't commit? This incident appears in time sequence toward the end of his life. After that, they had their problems at Ai, and figured out that Achan was responsible for that. The "Great Debate" between Nixon and Kennedy had not occurred yet. This is in the second commandment. I think he was looking at Adonijah and Solomon, and seeing the positioning for the throne, and he just wanted to throw up his handsflee like some bird (Psalm 139). To all appearances, it seems that they got away with it. Most, if not all, of those responsible were dead. God sent the rain, it says specifically, "from heaven," verse 10, "in the latter rains," which is their normal cycle. With all the recent rebellions, he was probably worried that his alliances were going to fail, because he may have appeared to weaken. Rizpah, Lord Alfred Tennyson in 1878. When asked about the time of the end; when questioned about the signs that would precede His Second Coming, our blessed Lord instinctively cautioned: "Take heed that no man deceive you." Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. It won't do anybody any good lying here dead. This is a bit unusual. All it is, was, "We want blood, and anyone from the house of Saul will do.". Does the Bible encourage the practice of Lent? How many died in bar-fights? He realized how often, and how far, he strayed from God's way of life. Instead, they told a story that either ignored the truth completely or, at least, shaded the truth in such a way that it was full of guile and deceit. You had only black and white television if you had television. Spiritual Strongholds (Part Two): Faithful Trust. David didnt get the throne until Saul and Jonathon were both dead. David was anointed king many years before he took the throne. He had Saul tryin Israel was totally swindled and bamboozled. Ezekiel 18:19-20 Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' One of them toward the end of this list is King David. Community answers are sorted based on votes. You cannot tell. And we are supposed to be ready. He had to plead to God for clearing and forgiveness, for cleaning up, because he knew it was not in himself to do that. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the L ORD. Numbers 35:34 "Therefore do not defile the land which you inhabit, in the midst of which I dwell; for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.'". And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." And King David rolled over and let this happen. It is not there in the Scriptures. Were they participants in killing the Gibeonites? Asked August 31 2013 They wanted the God of Israel to take it in the eye. It does not seem to me that during this time of the three years of famine David was emulating the attitude that he wrote about in Psalm 34. God isn't very pleased that these bodies have been exposed for six months against His law.". Why does the Bible say David spared Mephibosheth then offered him to the Gibeonites to be killed? This angered God and was only amended years later after sacrificing seven of Sauls sons to the Gibeonites by hanging them before Jehovah at Sauls hometown, Gibeah. After that, Gibeonites were no longer mentioned though there are some writers who believed that they were among the Nethinim, the ones selected to serve the temple. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. Even so, maybe there were even worse problems, perhaps, and David was blind to them for three years. However, there was not. As we get to about verse 32 in Hebrews 11, Paul says that he does not have time to get to all the other heroes of faith that the Bible gives us. What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. However there is nothing in the text that indicates he did this. It is tainted.". See? Therefore, they arrive in the camp of Israel, and say, "Where's your leader? I am putting this all together from history. lorraine goode. Then they replied, It was Saul who planned to destroy us, to keep us from having any place at all in Israel. Here we find the Gibeonites demand, and King David counter demandsNOT. But talk about your flawed heroes! He had a body of law that he could have referred back to and come up with a solution. Then they asked for a king, and God gave them Saul son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? What I am trying to show you by going through these different places is that there is plenty of law that King David could have looked back on. But it appears at least 40, maybe 50 years in the past. Then the men of David swore to him, saying, "You shall go out no more with us to battle, lest you quench the lamp of Israel.". We know that you said not to make a covenant with the people the land. We have our own sins to pay for; we do not pay for theirs. The last time Saul did swear not to kill David, Saul swore "by YHWH" not to kill david he broke it many times over since. SERIES INTRODUCTION In 1 Samuel 10, Saul first tries to kill David by straight up pinning him to the wall with his spear, but David dodges twice. How much food did Jesus produce? Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". Two years is a long time. They were going to come in there and just exterminate. I Samuel 14:47-48 So Saul established his sovereignty over Israel, and fought against all his enemies on every side, against Moab, against the people of Ammon, against Edom, against the kings of Zobah, and against the Philistines. And they took old sacks on their donkeys, old wineskins torn and mended, old and patched sandals on their feet, and old garments on themselves; and all the bread of their provision was dry and moldy. It is for Saul. 1. It would be the equivalent of an event somewhere between the Korean War and the Vietnam War. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. Then there is another thing. Had David been righteous and been crying out to God, God would have heard him. He was distracted by the cares of this world, by the pulls of this, that, and the other thing, and so he gives in and compromises with the people of the land. Saul, after having disqualified himself from being king, sought to ingratiate himself with God by killing Canaanites, including an unrecorded massacre of Gibeonites. 20, and still another between Saul and David in 1 Samuel 24. Probably what happened was that they put them on the top of the hill at Gibeah, so that God in the Tabernacle could "see" the execution being done. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. II Samuel 21:1-2 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. Saul also had sound state reasons for his action, for the Gibeonites were occupying an enclave in the very So, he spared Agag, and he spared a lot of the good stuff. WebKing Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. WebThis points to their employment in the sanctuary; and possibly may shed some light on the massacre of the Gibeonites by Saul (2 Samuel 21:1). One other thing: Samuel said that God is not going to go back on His word. How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? He is beyond us; it does not make any sense. King Saul would conscript them into the army, and off they would go in a bloodthirsty rage against somebody else. So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. We had before that the episode with Amnon and Tamar. It is after Absalom's rebellion. I will break the pride of your power; I will make your heavens like iron and your earth like bronze. He just weakly said, "Oh okay, whatever you want. He resolved properlynot without a lot of death, with 70,000 dead in that plague, but at least he had the repentant attitude by the time it was over. Our God has given us a law that says such and such, so this is what we are willing to do for you.". Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death [he cannot buy his way out]. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. God would have said, "Kill them all!" The Gibeonites have the dubious distinction of having duped Joshua and the elders of Israel. God sees behind the scenes. Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. The Gibeonites deceived Israel, but God's people had really deceived themselves. Lets be clear from the very beginning, David was kind to Mephibosheth for his father Jonathans sake (2 Samuel 9:1). Mephibosheth was only five ye Because of what had been going on, all the turmoil in this life and the kingdom, David was not spiritually prepared to face it. Most people living in modern, Western culture better identify with flawed heroes, rather than perfect heroes. It was as if David earlier said, "Let's just get this out of the way. The children of Israel gathered and went across the Jordan River, and set up camp at Gilgal. What is the meaning of the parable of the rich man and his manager? Vote Up David did all this, it seems, off the top of his head. They haven't been put in Kish's sepulcher yet. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." Let's see what's in our bag of tricks. Now, if we would go through II Samuel 24, that even though David made a huge mistake in chapter 21, he did it right in chapter 24. Therefore, the world is full of sintheir own sin. In verse 7 we see the only thing in the entire situation that was any good at all. But it does not say so here in so many words. Web11 Then the king sent for the priest Ahimelek son of Ahitub and all the men of his family, who were the priests at Nob, and they all came to the king. He does not seem to have asked the priest who would know the law the best to find out what Scripture said about situations like this. Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". To put it in a more modern time setting, a lot of people prefer Batman (the dark one), or Spiderman (the geek), to Superman for the very same reasons. and for his bloody house. It only says that God heeded the prayer of the land. That is not what it says here. 4. We cannot let them linger around. And Agag, he's a nice guy! He just let matters continue naturally and let it rub in for another six or seven months. We still need some more background. 1. It is his sin. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. Vote Up God did not perform a miracle to end this famine after these men were executed. Hearing that Joshua was camped in their general neighborhood, after his devastating defeat of the strategic cities of Jericho and Ai, the Gibeonites sent a delegation to him at nearby Gilgal. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. Therefore, your kingdom is taken away and given to another. WebTheir apostasy began with the Hivites from Gibeon, and in time, the leaven slowly spread. Time to retire!" And that is why God heeded the prayer of the land. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. This indicates that God was not pleased, whatsoever, with how this situation was resolved by David. He gets kicked down the societal ladder for his sin, and it takes three or four generations for the family to recover. The chronicler, herewhoever he wasis giving us a big hint that David's attention was elsewhere for three whole years. II Samuel 21:1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. he put the Gibeonites to death. Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. It is very clear, and very simplejust two little verses. Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comments: It was a heathen practice to gibbet men with a view of appeasing the anger of the gods in seasons of famine, and the Gibeonites, who were a remnant of the Amorites, though brought to the knowledge of the true God, were not, it seems, free from this superstition. Share Jonathan. Exodus 21:23-25 But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. If we think that we have it all figured out, I am sorry, we do not. I think he was very low. Then we have verses 34 through 36. Does the devil have power to make us sick? Why were genealogies so important to Israel? THE STORY OF THE GIBEONITES - God!before the Lordin Gibeah of Saul. And after that God heeded the prayer for the land. They handed their enemies hard, stale, moldy bread and told them it had been freshly baked when they left home. This is pretty clear. There is no want to those who fear Him. Before she married David, Abigail had been the wife of _____. With a careful reading and a bit of thought, you will begin to raise some questions. the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." And it happened at the end of three days, after they had made a covenant with them, that they heard that they were their neighbors who dwelt near them. He allowed his actions to be dictated by the Gentile principle of retributionvengeancerather than God's law on such matters. (Matthew 14:1921). David represents usJoe Church Membertrue Christians in a time of spiritual famine, much like what Amos describes in Amos 8:11, with the famine of the word. But the consequences of their sinswhat it means to us; what happened because of their sinstill affects us today. The Bible tells us that after Saul's death God sent a famine into the land mainly to get the attention of Saul's successor, King David. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. Once again, God's anointed was compelled to humble himself and his nation before a delegation of these servile Gibeonites. These cagey enemies of God's people were destined to be destroyed, so they devised a simple, but clever scheme to deceive Israel in the hope of saving their own necks. They were the five sons of Merab, Saul's daughter. However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". BATTLE AGAINST ENVY AND JEALOUSY . However, we have a great deal of trouble identifying with or understanding pure, innocent and perfect Galahad. Perhaps those first two, Armoni, and Mephibosheth were old enough to have participated in the event. & "Take heed that you be not deceived." Why so? However, there was a difference between Israel's version and the Gentiles' principle of vengeance or retribution. Guilt for sin is not hereditary. He wanted to go do something else. Based on what he knew, and what was available in God's law, David should have been much more judicious. He is able to judge justly. He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. At most it was about ten miles awaynot very far at all. Such a shame to destroy it all! We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. 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